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6:13 pm January 30, 2012
| joan
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In Virginia, the American Dietetic Association is pushing a bill that would grant a monopoly on nutrition counseling to Registered Dietitians. This would be devastating for real food and health in Va. For more background on this nutrition licensing bill see: http://va4hf.org/HB345.html
The bill (HB345) will be heard THIS TUESDAY, Jan. 31 at approx. 10am. It is in subcommittee 2
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bi…..sub+H12002
Will this effect members of your group from posting recipes on your site.
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7:38 pm January 30, 2012
| Robert K. Su MD
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joan, Thank you very much for sharing this information with me. I am ashamed that as a Virginian, I had not realized of these bills. Yes, many professional organizations want to protect their turfs from anyone who may step in and compete with them. I may be naive, because I do not know the content of the bill, HB345, but do not think the bill will prohibit from posting recipes here online for sharing. Based on my common sense, I bet that the bill will prevent anyone from practicing nutritional or dietary consultation unless they are licensed nutritionists. Nevertheless, as a physician, I certainly can offer consultation for improving general health and/or provide conference for educating the public how to improve their health by eating the right things. This is just my thought. And, I hope that I am correct.
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8:40 pm January 30, 2012
| joan
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9:49 pm January 30, 2012
| Robert K. Su MD
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joan and my dear friends, I believe the wave of pushing legislation to restrict the practice of nutrition to those who are licensed nutritionists is understandably a movement for protecting their turf. A few months ago, When Medicare was starting to cover nutritional consultation done by physicians for a one-year pilot program, nutritionists/dietitians were very upset and protested that physicians did not know nutrition. Sure, a majority of physicians does not know nutrition, however, it is funny enough that nutrition is under the scope of medical practice. Therefore, patient would have to go to physicians for nutritional consultation as preventive medicine before the patient may be referred if necessary.
I do not believe that the law is intended to or can be employed for forcing people to consult with nutritionists or dietitians for nutritional consultation. Nutritionists or dietitians are felling threatened because when more people find out that their advice does cause more harm than help, they are going to lose their practice, or MONEY!
As said, the law neither can and does force people to consult with nutritionists or dietitians, nor can it stop people from publishing or reading books in nutrition and with recipes. Most importantly, those who do not have the legal qualifications still can share their recipes and ideas in health and nutrition, as long as you do not give qualified medical and nutritional advice and at least place a disclaimer before you touch the core issue —qualified medical and nutritional advice.
Yes, indeed, I do not like the wave of legislation. However, I am not sure how much we can do to win this battle. If the bills are passed, you should still be able to share recipes and ideas here about what we should do to stay healthy.
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10:11 pm January 30, 2012
| Robert K. Su MD
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Urgent!
Please call your state legislators and ask them to reject any bill that takes away your right of taking advice from someone who is sharing his personal nutritional experience with others for helping people to restore and maintain good health!
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10:37 pm January 30, 2012
| Annette Presley
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Here is a letter I sent to help in Colorado. I am a registered dietitian who opposes licensure and I am more than happy to send a letter to any group that needs it.
As a property owner in the state of Colorado, I would like to express my concern about the rules being developed to implement Colorado Dietitian Bill HB1060.
I am a registered dietitian in the state of Texas and can testify to the inadequate training of dietitians. Most of our education and the majority of our exam is focused on food service, not nutrition counseling or wellness. We get basic biochemistry and learn one approach to feeding people in diseased states (usually in a hospital setting), but we do not learn how to use real food, vitamins, minerals, herbs or antioxidants to restore health. We are taught that these things are useless and that no one needs more than the RDA of a nutrient.
I have seen improved health in my clients with the use of supplements and real food. One client had been trying to get pregnant for over a year. I put her on a whole foods diet with plenty of saturated fat and cholesterol and supplements of iodine, glandulars and the herb vitex. She was pregnant within three months and delivered a healthy baby boy. I learned about iodine, glandulars, herbs and the importance of saturated fat and cholesterol in supporting pregnancy on my own, outside my formal education. Using a high saturated fat diet and supplements goes against everything I was taught in school, yet it gave my client a better quality of life and the joy of becoming a mother. It was in the best interests of my client to ignore what I was taught in school.
The American Dietetic Association (ADA) is heavily funded by the food industry so their health messages support that industry and the use of processed food. When I was a member of the ADA, I received processed food in the mail frequently, such as granola bars, Splenda, Equal and candy bars. The candy bars came with a note from the company dietitian telling me how I could help my clients incorporate a candy bar into their meal plan as part of a healthy, well balanced diet. I don’t think my clients need a candy bar to balance out their diet and I don’t think that kind of advice should be the only advice allowed.
While there are some very knowledgeable dietitians out there, having the credential of RD does not qualify someone to dispense accurate, sound nutrition information. Other credentialed nutritionists (CNS, CCN, chiropractors, etc) are just as qualified, if not more so, than a dietitian. It really depends on the person, rather than the credential. Anyone who is open to new ideas and keeps up with the latest research is better qualified to give out nutrition information than a dietitian who only does what they were taught to do in school.
It will be a disservice to citizens in your state to only allow Registered Dietitians and nutritionists supported by the American Dietetic Association to dispense nutrition information. Consumers deserve to have a choice and many now prefer alternative approaches to health rather than what is promoted by the mainstream because they have not been helped by the mainstream advice. Dietitians do not have adequate training in alternative therapies, so we need other nutritionists who are qualified in alternative approaches. Above all, we need choice. That is what democracy is all about, the freedom to choose what is best for self and family.
I am concerned that this will affect a citizen’s choice to adequately protect their health and the health of their family. They should have the right to choose nutritional therapy from a variety of professionals coinciding with their personal health and nutritional philosophy. The rules seem to favor the Registered Dietitian without recognizing the value of other nutrition credentials or professionals with training in nutrition, and serve only to create a monopoly for them, and restrict choice for citizens.
Please protect the rights of Colorado citizens and the practice of nutrition and dietetics with a no vote on Colorado Dietitian Bill HB1060. Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Annette Presley RD
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Annette Presley RD LD gives out information on fat that is not approved, recommended, sponsored or endorsed by the FDA, ADA, USDA or NIH so you should consult with a pysician before taking her advice. :)
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10:42 pm January 30, 2012
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Thank you very much, Ms. Presley! With your background in nutritional science, your advice to the state legislature should have an impact. I just realize my own state, Virginia, will have a hearing in the State House. I'll contact the group of people who are fighting against the bill to contact you for your input and help.
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1:34 pm February 2, 2012
| joan
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Robert K. Su MD said:
Thank you very much, Ms. Presley! With your background in nutritional science, your advice to the state legislature should have an impact. I just realize my own state, Virginia, will have a hearing in the State House. I'll contact the group of people who are fighting against the bill to contact you for your input and help.
Joan Mercantini said:
I just read on Steve Cooksey's FB page, and I quote:
I was informed that… should I be convicted, in addition to my site being shut down… I could face 120 days IN JAIL! Go for it!
… I bet they would serve me ADA approved high carb crap.
#HungerStrike! :) … I told the attorney, this does not discourage me at all.
I don't think this will happen… butt… if they want to make an example out of me… BRING IT ON"
Sad that this count happen in America!
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2:29 pm February 2, 2012
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Post edited 2:44 pm – February 2, 2012 by Robert K. Su MD
joan and my friends, This is a serious matter to all of us. It seems to me the laws are unconstitutional because they are in violation of the First Amendment. I suggest that Steve Cooksey contact the NATIONAL HEALTH FREEDOM ACTION at similars@aol.com, and ask for help. If your state has such laws to prohibit sharing nutritional knowledge with others, as long as you do not call yourself a nutritionist or dietitian, you should contact your legislators for amending them to make room for your FREEDOM.
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8:30 am February 26, 2012
| niteshskumar143
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Post edited 9:15 am – February 26, 2012 by Robert K. Su MD
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